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I'm trying to work within the diet. Some parts are easier than others. I'm getting in my cup of vegetables per day, but it's having icky effects on me.

I've got the runs. Big time. My body has a hard time dealing with that much fruit and vegetable matter. I understand the Nutritionist wants me to get in more phytochemicals, but I wish there was a way I could just take them by pill and eat some grains to bulk myself up. Ugh.

Date: 2006-10-22 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bovil.livejournal.com
Your body will adapt to the fiber, and in the long term it will help with some of the other gastric difficulties that you've talked about.

Date: 2006-10-22 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merlinpole.livejournal.com
[Squickiness ahead]

Er, maybe, and it might depend upon what Figmo is eating--some stuff is worse than others for particular people, and there can be intolerances involved, too, for particular types of fruit and vegetables and particular types of preparation (I refuse to eat raw onions, for example. Cooked, sure, pickled, okay, raw, NFW, I get heartburn. If I eat too many raw sunflower seeds I regret it).

Apples and I think also pears are full of pectin, used for jelling, I don't know if they're problems for Figmo or not, though. Grapefruit has a digestion-emptying out effect for me. If I eat too much meat I regret it, and as for pizza, if I had to live on a white bread pizza diet I'm convinced I would have died decades ago. It glues itself to my intestines, painfully....

I've lately been doing some raw chestnut eating--I have a Chinese chestnut tree, which apparently get pollinated by insects that visited American chestnut trees (there are American chestnut trees, mature ones even from the evidence of the sprouted sapling chestnuts presumably planted by treerats--the sprouted saplings have leaves that look like American chestnut trees rather than a Chinese chestnut tree--the leaves are longer and they're not the darker glossy green of the Chinese chestnut). The result is nuts that are sweet enough for me to eat raw, and since I collected a few pounds of them this year, and like chestnuts, and have not been going to the effort so far of e.g. roasting them...

European chestnut trees are not edible out of hand that way.

Hmm, I wonder, would eating matzoh help? It's a binding agent supposedly...

Date: 2006-10-22 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bovil.livejournal.com
It's distinctly possible that there's a food allergy involved, but that's for the nutritionist and her doctor to figure out.

Date: 2006-10-22 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
I'm hoping that's true, which is why i'm persisting on eating the veggies despite the side effect.

Date: 2006-10-22 03:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] howeird
My experience is it is fruit, not vegetables, which turns ones digestive system into a jet propulsion lab. My extensive research has shown that uncooked cherries are the most likely to have this effect, and I am recommending them for NASA's alternative fuels program.

Date: 2006-10-22 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
*Giggle*

I have no problem with cherries. OTOH, every time I go to a salad bar I can guarantee my digestive system will turn into a jet propulsion lab.

Date: 2006-10-22 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kennita.livejournal.com
Would low-sodium V-8, or Trader Joe's Garden Patch juice, be allowable for some of the vegetable allotment? The advantage there is that (other than tomatoes) there's not too much of any one vegetable. I guess the downside is that with so many ingredients there's more chance that one is something you're allergic or sensitive to....

From the NIH page on diarrhea: "Until diarrhea subsides, try to avoid milk products and foods that are greasy, high-fiber, or very sweet. These foods tend to aggravate diarrhea.", and "To maintain electrolyte levels, you could have broth or soups, which contain sodium, and fruit juices, soft fruits, or vegetables, which contain potassium."

Hang in there!

Date: 2006-10-22 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
I can't stand tomato juice (or the side effects from it; I'm highly sensitive to some of the random veggies in it), so neither of those would work for me as a vegetable.

Oddly enough, I often find that dairy products and whole grains help when I've got Ye Olde Runs.

I didn't do my fruit allotment yesterday because it felt like it would aggravate things. "Dinner" was a whole wheat mini bagel with smoked salmon and tofu cream cheese plus 2 graham crackers for "dessert." That didn't go "straight through me."

Date: 2006-10-22 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kennita.livejournal.com
Note that there were no vegetables involved.

Um, tomato juice and V-8 (or Garden Patch) are not the same thing; discussing the "random veggies" in tomato juice makes no sense. You may not like or be able to drink tomato juice either, but that's a different issue.

There are lots of other vegies you can ease into the vegie thing with. Can you do carrots? They have the advantage of being easy to eat and not wilting too fast (and they make a satisfying *crunch* when you're frustrated at work :-) .

Date: 2006-10-23 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
I phrased that wrongly.

I meant "I can't stand tomato juice, and I react badly to some of the random other veggies in V-8."

I can do carrots and probably will. I actually find the crunch aspect rather annoying, as I'm not a "crunch" person, but I do like the taste.

Date: 2006-10-22 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drewkitty.livejournal.com
>> Oddly enough, I often find that dairy products and whole grains help when I've got Ye Olde Runs.

Ditto for me. Anything that puts healthy bacteria in the gut seems to help -- your mileage may vary.

Certainly mention it to your dietician

Date: 2006-10-22 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capplor.livejournal.com
It might be that you're supposed to work up to it rather than change your diet all at once.

If you're VERY uncomfortable call her before your next appointment, or stop until you can ask about it.

Re: Certainly mention it to your dietician

Date: 2006-10-22 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
I may call her tomorrow if this keeps up.

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