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Is it too soon to perform a Michael Jackson parody?

Date: 2009-07-02 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravan.livejournal.com
IMO, no.

ETA: Then again, I never did like his stuff.
Edited Date: 2009-07-02 01:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-02 01:40 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] thnidu.livejournal.com
Never too soon. But that's just my opinion; I never much liked him. Others may explode.

Date: 2009-07-02 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duncanmac.livejournal.com
Agreed with that. I think items "ttto" an MJ song are fine. Something which pokes fun at him may be more debateable or questionable.

And yes, I too never liked him much.

MJ parody

Date: 2009-07-02 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hvideo.livejournal.com
If it's a standard "new words to an old tune" and the tune just happens to be a Michael Jackson tune then I see no problem. In filk circles it's generally considered to partly be a tribute to the original.

If it's going to make fun of MJ (or the original song itself) in any way, however, it's too soon.

Unfortunately, I have heard people telling MJ jokes (since his death) that were poking fun at him (and not in a nice way). While his celebrity status and unusual lifestyle made him fair game for that when he was alive, there should be a period after a death where we set such things aside out of respect for his passing.

Re: MJ parody

Date: 2009-07-02 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
The nature of my parody isn't vicious. I could have made fun of his plastic surgeries in it or the child molestation stuff, but neither fit the nature of what actually inspired it.

I'll post the lyrics when I sort them all out. Right now it's 90% complete.

Date: 2009-07-02 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmozine.livejournal.com
It may be too late. I think Weird Al beat us to it.

Nothing wrong with a little dark humor, in my opinion.

Date: 2009-07-02 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duncanmac.livejournal.com
Why am I not surprised?

Date: 2009-07-02 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robin-june.livejournal.com
Weird Al beat us to it two decades ago!
Did you hear something acutely composed?

Date: 2009-07-03 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duncanmac.livejournal.com
No ... I thought [livejournal.com profile] lemmozine meant something referring to him since he died June 25.

Date: 2009-07-02 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dinogrl.livejournal.com
Spamalot was cracking the random MJ reference joke when we went on Sunday. I thought it was in poor form. Just out of respect for the dead. He was a very tragic individual in life, and now in death.

Date: 2009-07-02 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capplor.livejournal.com
Whatcha got?

Date: 2009-07-02 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmozine.livejournal.com
If I were to write one, it would be ttto "man in the mirror" because it's the only MJ song I've heard (drove me nuts) and would revolve around Batman, with MJ appropriately cast as the Joker.

I'm sayin, he just looks like The Joker.
I'm sayin, he looks so like The Joker.

It has the right beat. Yeah. Now, how does the rest of the song go...

Date: 2009-07-02 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
I'll post what I have in mind in a little bit.

It's amazing how uninteresting his lyrics are.

Date: 2009-07-02 03:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] howeird
Only if it involves setting your hair on fire.

Date: 2009-07-02 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
Only if I'm paid by the Ignited Negro College Fund.

Date: 2009-07-02 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robin-june.livejournal.com
Are they friends with the IgNobel Prize Committee?

Date: 2009-07-03 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duncanmac.livejournal.com
I doubt that any of them would consider him or his music to be a "burning" (especially hair-burning) issue. :-)

Date: 2009-07-02 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bovil.livejournal.com
Well, I've been listening to Frank Zappa's "Why Don't You Like Me?" the last few days, so I'm probably not the best person to ask...

...but you could always parody that instead.

Date: 2009-07-02 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keristor.livejournal.com
I've heard people cracking MJ jokes since a few hours after it was announced (on TV as well).

I don't believe in "respect for the dead" in the sense many people seem to be using it. If they deserved respect when they were alive, they still deserve it, if not then not. Being dead doesn't make them 'untouchable'.

Consideration for the living who are mourning their dead is another matter. I wouldn't crack jokes about a dead person to or in front of their relatives (and therefore not on public media) out of consideration for those who might find it upsetting (on the other hand I know some families where that would be welcomed, like at an Irish style wake). But then that could be extended to "don't even mention the dead person" or play their songs bcause it might upset someone, it's a very fuzzy line.

Humour is a very common way of dealing with sadness (indeed, it has been argued that all humour is a way of dealing with 'wrongness').

(I remember hearing the joke "What's dead and sounds like a bell?" within a few days of the announcement of Bing Crosby's death. Even those who considered it tasteless still laughed...)

Date: 2009-07-02 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koshmom.livejournal.com
I believe the "polite" thing to do is to wait until he's been buried or has been turned into ash. Problem is, his family is going to farm him out for viewing in Neverland, then in Gary, Indiana. He might not hit the ground/get to ashes for another month or so.

Normally the wait time is a week. In his case, try 2 weeks from his death.

However, that's the "polite" thing. With the way the media is handling all this, and since his family is treating him like a god re the funeral arrangements, that time is growing shorter and shorter exponentially.

Did something change?

Date: 2009-07-02 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capplor.livejournal.com
I thought I heard that there would NOT be a public viewing at Neverland (a statment supposedly released by his family)

Date: 2009-07-02 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverstorm2013.livejournal.com
Well since he died in the 90s and was replaced buy some freaky white guy I don't think its too soon.

Date: 2009-07-02 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msminlr.livejournal.com
Not if you don't feel squicky while you're practicing it.

Date: 2009-07-02 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xthread.livejournal.com
Yes, unfortunately.

Date: 2009-07-03 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sffilk.livejournal.com
To be perfectly honest, if I never hear another word about him, it'll be too soon.

Date: 2009-07-06 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dan-ad-nauseam.livejournal.com
This is a question from a regular participant in TTTR?

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