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I have looked all over the Internet and have not found a direct answer to this question.

If you are a Reform Jew, your mother is Sephardic, and your father is Ashkenazic, are you Sephardic, Ashkenazic, or can you choose depending upon how you were raised?

Date: 2005-04-29 11:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] howeird
What I was taught says your mother's religion is your religion.

If the mother's conversion was not Orthodox, the child is not recognized as Jewish by most Orthodox congregations. It also can nix the child's Right of Return, if the conversion is determined to not have been Halachic.

Date: 2005-04-30 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dan-ad-nauseam.livejournal.com
IIRC, they've managed to work out a deal on the "What is a conversion" issue.

ObSF: William Tenn, "On Venus, Have They Got a Rabbi"

Date: 2005-04-29 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judith-s.livejournal.com
Of course Reform Jews allow you to self-identify. Most people who are half Sephardic tend to identific Sephardic in my experience. Although given how pale you are, you would probably feel more at home in an Ashkenazic community. Most of the Sephardic Jews tend to be darker skinned.

Date: 2005-04-29 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
Actually, I grew up with a dark-skinned grandmother (her parents came here from Alexandria, Egypt), so I'm used to identifying with Sephardic Jews.

I asked this question because one of my co-workers claimed the "Sephardic vs. Ashkenazic" line is passed down via the paternal line, whereas I'd always learned it was passed down the maternal line.

Date: 2005-04-29 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merlinpole.livejournal.com
I asked this question because one of my co-workers claimed the "Sephardic vs. Ashkenazic" line is passed down via the paternal line, whereas I'd always learned it was passed down the maternal line.

Er. Um. I don't think there is a good answer, it's "none of the above." It depended where the particular Sephardim went and what customs got kept. There are apparently a lot of Ashkenzai Jews whose ancestors 500+ years ago had been on the Iberian pennisula, and wound up in the Austrian-Hungarian Empire and what today is the Ukraine and adopting Ashkenzai customs over the years, changed over to Askenazim. [I think there is some material on line regarding the history of Jews in the Kiev area that explains that. It's also possibly one of the reasons why the pecking order in Europe among Jews was Littvak, then Rushishaw [spelling = Russian/Ukrainian Jews], and the "Galitzianer" (Austria-Hungarian/Galician Jews), perhaps depending on how long they'd followed Ashkenzai customs.

Jew who left Iberia for Turkey and other Muslim-majority lands, stayed identified as Sephardim. The ones who went to the Netherlands I think tended to adopt Ashkenzai customs. The ones who decamped to the Yucatan, what today is New Mexico, and that general region of the world, went into hiding for five centuries or so, during which many of them lost explicit family secrets that they were Jews, and others merely keeping it very very secretive and practicing endogamy. The ones in New Mexico apparently started coming out of the clost the past 15 years or so. Others have been discovering "so -that's- why our family lights candles Friday nights and has chicken for supper!"

Date: 2005-04-29 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sdorn.livejournal.com
That one's easy: you're Shaboopie.

Date: 2005-04-29 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cat-herder.livejournal.com
Oh man, flashbacks to Buddy Hackett...

Date: 2005-04-30 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dan-ad-nauseam.livejournal.com
My cousins were raised more Conservative than Reform, but they're more Reform these days. My uncle (by marriage) is Sephardic (his family is from Turkey) and my cousins tend to consider themselves mixed. At Cousin 2's wedding a couple of years ago, they had a ketubah in the Sephardic style, but everything else about the ceremony was predominantly Ashkenazi.

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