I prefer fork, unless I'm eating it with ice cream, in which case it's a spoon unless the ice cream is hard. But if there are no forks left, hey, any port in a storm :-)
One more vote for a fork. I could eat pie or cake with a spoon, but I wouldn't choose it any more than I'd choose a spoon for mashed potatoes or pasta salad.
He went on to say that "pie with a fork" is North American etiquette (and adopted by that particular organisation as standard), and that in other cultures you do what your hostess (or host) does. It is impolite to demand a fork in a culture which only uses spoons (or fingers). He had other examples of different cultures, for example the Jockaira in "Methuselah's Children" where it was a communal dish and politeness was to scoop up the stuff with your fingers and feed it to your host or partner.
The point in Space Cadet was to break the attitude that "the way I was taught is always right", and to set a standard which would be regarded as "not impolite" by most of the people they were likely to encounter (although some would find it strange and possibly inefficient).
I generally eat cake with fingers, unless it's a really gooey one - in which case, probably a spoon, as it's easy to lick all every last trace of the gooey stuff off of.
When eating out, whatever the local social system is. It is correct in Cornwall, for instance, to hold a Cornish Pasty in your fist and eat it from the other end (unless it's too hot to hold; a proper pasty shouldn't be too crumbly or soft). Meat pies will normally be with knife and fork (fork held in the left hand, knife in the right; optionally the other way round for sinister people). Fruit pie is usually with a spoon, optionally with a fork. Cake served as dessert is usually with a fork, but served for "afternoon tea" is often eaten using fingers even at 'posh' places.
At home (includes family meals) it depends on the type of pie or cake. Solid cakes (sponge, fruit cake, the things called 'muffins' in the US, etc.) I use fingers. Some cold pies I use fingers (particularly the solid meat pies). Savoury pies served with vegetables and/or gravy I us a knife and fork (as for other meat & veg type savoury dishes). Fruit pies with cream, ice cream, or custard, or ones which are too soft to pick up, I use a spoon and sometimes a fork as well.
Pizza (regarded by some as a form of open pie or savoury tart) is eaten with fingers unless too hot or too floppy.
I regard this as British 'normal' etiquette, not necessarily that of those who think themselves "upper class" (who have things like fish knives and special spoons and forks for each type of food).
Fork for the pie/cake, spoon for the ice cream in the ala mode.
The only pies I'll eat with my fingers are those cheap enclosed "pies". I'll sometimes eat sheet cake with my fingers, if there's no frosting and/or it's an outdoor event sans silverware.
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1. What type of pie/cake is it?
2. Where am I
3. What time it is
4. Who is around?
If I'm by myself in the car or in the house, Social Correctitude is not a necessary consideration!
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Straight from the Book
Oh, someone was thinking of a different book, blue in color? As I recall it allows either.
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The point in Space Cadet was to break the attitude that "the way I was taught is always right", and to set a standard which would be regarded as "not impolite" by most of the people they were likely to encounter (although some would find it strange and possibly inefficient).
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Pie? Spoon I guess.
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At home (includes family meals) it depends on the type of pie or cake. Solid cakes (sponge, fruit cake, the things called 'muffins' in the US, etc.) I use fingers. Some cold pies I use fingers (particularly the solid meat pies). Savoury pies served with vegetables and/or gravy I us a knife and fork (as for other meat & veg type savoury dishes). Fruit pies with cream, ice cream, or custard, or ones which are too soft to pick up, I use a spoon and sometimes a fork as well.
Pizza (regarded by some as a form of open pie or savoury tart) is eaten with fingers unless too hot or too floppy.
I regard this as British 'normal' etiquette, not necessarily that of those who think themselves "upper class" (who have things like fish knives and special spoons and forks for each type of food).
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The only pies I'll eat with my fingers are those cheap enclosed "pies". I'll sometimes eat sheet cake with my fingers, if there's no frosting and/or it's an outdoor event sans silverware.
Now for the real question
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Yes, happily.
Oh, you mean "which one?". Fork in general, spoon if w/ ice cream: I second kennita.
SPORK!
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But I'd use a spoon if thats all I had. But I'd be thinking of the fork :-)
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