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figmo ([personal profile] figmo) wrote2005-12-29 10:13 am

A Funny Sylvia Plath story

This is one of those things that, as my Grandmom put it, "is funny ten years from now." In this story "now" was closer to 30 years ago (eegs -- that long!).

I was attending college at Hofstra University and decided to take a creative writing class during intersession. One of the guys in the class was a drama major friend of mine named Larry. Another was a guy named Dave, also a friend of mine. Note that these guys were not mutual friends.

Dave wrote incredible free form poetry. If I ever were to come across a poetry book with his name on it as the author I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat and recommend everyone reading this do so as well. Despite this, our teacher was adamant we dabble in every type of writing on her list. One of those items was standard, rhyming metered poetry. Dave hated that kind of poetry and found writing it about as much fun as being castrated (not that he'd have known about that firsthand, but you get the idea...).

When the teacher told Dave outright she was going to flunk him because he had refused to write "a rhyming poem," Dave finally obliged. What he cranked out was every bit as brilliant as his free-form poetry, but in a different way.

We always sat in a circle. Dave sat to my right that day in class; Larry to my left. What Dave had written was a parody of Sylvia Plath's "Daddy," complete with the Nazi Germany references, only with some of the worst rhymes in history. I "got" what Dave was up to and was choking back from laughing hysterically. This poem was a brilliant example of the "so bad it's funny" genre, and what made it even funnier to me was our teacher didn't "get" it. When Dave read the couplet:

While I was reading Shakespeare
You were drinking Schlitz beer

The class went from creative writing to WWF. Larry, who was normally a jovial and easygoing guy, lunged over me to Dave's chair and tried to beat him up. Actually, Larry was kind of big, so the attempted pummelling was going on in my lap. Several of the guys in the class had to pry Larry off us.

Years later I ran into Dave at Columbia, where he was a very clean cut-looking graduate student in English. He said, "Don't tell anyone about my past."

I replied, "Are you kidding? Nobody would ever believe me anyway."

[identity profile] jhitchin.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still wondering what it was about Schlitz beer that made Larry go postal.

[identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Larry was a Drama major who took the subject very seriously. The rhyming of something as awful as Schlitz beer with his beloved Shakespeare made him go ballistic.

[identity profile] jhitchin.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently Larry was majoring in more than one kind of drama.

Personally, the word "Schlitz" is just so darned funny in and of itself, that I just couldn't help smiling at it.

[identity profile] maedb.livejournal.com 2005-12-30 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
yuou have GOT to be kidding. Okay, obviously not, but wowee zowee.

And if we're supposed to keep an eye out for Dave's poetry, we'll sort of need to have a last name ... hint ... hint ...

[identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com 2005-12-30 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Oops. Gottfried.

I did Google searches on "Dave Gottfried" and "David Gottfried" and came up empty on the guy (the ecology guy who shows up is not him).

[identity profile] hitchhiker.livejournal.com 2005-12-30 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
now *that* is weird in the creepy sense.
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[personal profile] skreeky 2005-12-29 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. I don't think I knew you went to Hofstra. Class of '94 here. Hated the place, loved my department, still have random HTV crap around.

[identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I was there from '76 to '79. Never graduated; instead, I got kicked out of the place (long story).
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[personal profile] skreeky 2005-12-29 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm curious. Was Prof. Bill Renn around in your day? We were pretty much convinced he's been there since the dawn of time.

[identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, yes!!!

You could always tell when a gal was about to go to Renn for "counseling" (where he'd have to sign off on your classes) because she'd put on a ton of makeup, pad her bra and butt if needed, and wear a blouse with the neck unbuttoned a couple of buttons, a vest, skirt, and high-heeled boots.

Putting "The Renn Costume" on often made a difference as to whether he'd let you into the classes you wanted to take.

Renn would never let me take Television Performance. He told one of my classmates I was "too ugly to be allowed on television."

What ever became of him?
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[personal profile] skreeky 2005-12-29 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. I think the intervening decade must have changed him a lot, or I was just oblivious. He was head of the TV division when I was there, and to us he was just this old guy we called "Uncle Bill" behind his back. Of course, I wasn't interested in being talent - I was a gearhead and a freakishly organized producer. He seemed to like me a lot just for that.

As div head, he was the advisor for all the seniors. I'd had him for Comm 12 back in sophomore year, and I'd gotten a B in the class - the only non-A I had. It was a well deserved low grade - my project in that class sucked so bad I was embarrassed to put my name on it and wasn't sure it deserved the C it got. When I walked in for my senior advising session, he was reading my file, looked up, and said "You never told me I gave you the only B you ever got. I'm really sorry I ruined your GPA." And he meant it. And I told him in no uncertain terms that my project sucked so hard that year that any higher grade would have been a travesty. I think we were both surprised. And maybe my obvious disinterest in unfair favoritism is why we never dealt in those terms.

He proceeded to push my ass into the most insanely stressful position at HTV - producing the main news show. To this day I'm not sure whether it was a favor or an act of hate. I cut my teeth on a story about a kid that jumped off the top of Tower A to commit suicide that September.

The only time he really offended me was when he went on a rant about how ugly our anchor's new hairdo was. (The rest of us loved it.)

[identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Clearly he mellowed, then. When I was there he wasn't at all considered "old."

Renn was in charge of the TV track when I was there, and for my sophomore and junior years he was (yuck) acting department head; Dr. Gordon had been dept. head but was taking a two-year sabbatical to start up a communications department at another school.

I got a D in Comm 12 even though I never got less than a B on any of the written tests; my project partner got an A. Renn disliked me from day 1 and went out of his way to try to push me out of the department. He was very superficial back then and didn't like gals who didn't look a lot like Farrah Fawcett.

Renn begrudgingly acknowledged and used folks like you. We had a gal named Virginia whose temperament was a lot like yours who kicked ass. Virginia worked her ass off behind the scenes and finally got noticed. Meanwhile, he recruited a "talented" gal from the print journalism track to do broadcast news ("talented" meaning she had the look he liked).

I took a TV production class one intersession to make up for the D in Comm 12. He split us up into teams. My team was going to do a documentary on the school dorms. We were going to interview the guy in charge of them, and since I was the only resident student of us, was already well acquainted with the guy, and was the only "newsie" of our crowd, we all decided I'd do the interview.

The morning of the interview Renn took aside the rest of my team and ordered them to have another gal in our team (who wasn't really qualified to do the interview but, to her dismay, had The Look He Wanted) do the interview because "Lynn's too ugly." That stuck with me for years.

I spent most of my time hanging around WVHC, where I was much more welcomed and given the opportunity to learn. He was always floored when he saw how many hours I put in there (heh - some things never change). Jeff Kraus (was he there when you were there?) had me pegged to do radio comedy, but I was too dense to figure that out.